We invite you to add your thoughts, ideas and comments about this website, the book Kurdistan: In the Shadow of History, or the traveling exhibition. After eight years of touring, the exhibit was displayed for the last time in Paris at the Hotel de Ville during the summer of 2004. An excerpt of the original show was presented at the International Center for Photography in New York, September 19, 2008–January 4, 2009; and at the Zilkha Gallery at Wesleyan University, Fall 2008.

Please note: we reserve the right to edit comments for inappropriate and/or profane language.

This is such a great and inspirational web page and i hope it goes on for a very long time

Submitted by: kurdish girl
Date: December 31, 2004

Subject: !!!!!!!

I want to thank the people who set up this web-site. it gives a better understanding of the kurdish community to people who judge us and think that we're just the a place in the middle east. Even though i am young i am wise enough to understand the content of this web page. Thanks

Submitted by: dilman
Date: December 21, 2004

Subject: Kurdish/Acadian relationship?

My ancestors came from Europe [France] to N. America in 1604, and settled in ACADIA, Port Royal NS. They were ACADIANS [Akadians]. I am a descendant of the Israelite tribe of Reuben, who settled near Arnon River, Jordan over 3,400 years ago. For 400 years they occupied the Jordan region, as sheep herders. Some moved back to the fertile crescent region of Akkad [Accad] Turkistan around 3,000 years ago, nearly 300 years before the deportation of the 10 Northern tribes of Israel [722 BC] by the Assyrians. How my Reubenite ancestors differ from other peoples of the Middle East, is that they were terrific farmers, they built dykes and canals to gather rich top soil from river silt, [land reclamation]. They also built dykes and worked the land in the same manner in Acadia, and in a similar manner in Lowlands of Europe Belgium/Dutch etc. My ancestors are not to be mistaken for the JEWS of Iraq, who were taken into Babylonian captivity in 585 BC. My ancestors simply went back to the land of their forefather Abraham who lived there 4,000 years ago.

The reason why I write you as an Acadian historian, is that I believe that the Kurdish people must know of my Acadian ancestors, and there are still many of my ancestral lineage still living in Kurdistan. My Isrealite ancestors [Reubenites, Gadites and Manassites] have kept precise records for 4,000 years, and these records are also in the Holy Scriptures, so I pray that my information will be of service for your website?

Submitted by: K.P. DuMont
Date: December 21, 2004

Subject: The fest of Ezedi Kurds

Congratulation to Ezidi Kurds !

17th December is a festivity for Ezidi Kurds. Believers of

one of oldest conventions in the World.

While I am writing this lines I am watching a programme in

Kurdish Satellite Tv, Roj Tv ( in commemorating

this event.

Hail to a pluralistic Kurdish Society and in friendship

of Peoples of Middle-East.


Submitted by: Hiwa shayan
Date: December 18, 2004

Subject: Great website :)

I love this website.

Submitted by: Sharon Kimbell
Date: December 16, 2004

Subject: Where is Kurdistan?

I gotta ask you: is there a country called Kurdistan or is it just a dream which will ever not be true? Turks are in Diyarbakır, Sanlıurfa cities.. Also there is Turkish army, Turkish markets, Turkish schools.. And those cities are beyond the boundary of Turkey. However maybe you will learn more if you study in a university. Try to educate urself in your country, Iraq or Turkey. I'd recommend u to study in Kurdistan, but u have to sleep and see a dream to do it!

Submitted by: Berdan
Date: December 02, 2004

I am a kurdish girl and I am so glad to see that wonderful person give their time and interest theirself to a country which possess a so rich culture. i think it is important to make known our culture.

thank you so much.



Submitted by: Suzan
Date: November 26, 2004

Subject: arabic pages

i hope you have arabic pages also to introduse kurdestan to the arab peoples

Submitted by: Dr. yousif saeed
Date: November 18, 2004

Subject: Les Kurdes Ardalan

I wish to inform you of the recent publication of "Les Kurdes Ardalan" by Editions Geuthner in Paris. This book, written by Sheerin Ardalan, is an unprecedented contribution to the study of the Ardalan dynasty which reigned over a major part of Kurdistan from the XIIth century to 1867.

Editions Orientalistes Geuthner

12 rue Vavin

75007 Paris France

Best regards and congratulations

Hervé Marion

Submitted by: Hervé Marion
Date: November 12, 2004

Subject: congratulations for ur website

Thanks, i think it's the better website i have seen in my life.Great design, a lot of information ... thanks a lot.

Submitted by: salim
Date: November 07, 2004

Subject: Assyria VS Kurdistan

Hello I am a Dr. at the University of Chicago and my questions to the Kurds of your so called Kurdistan is do they know the land they claim all belongs to the Assyrians? Who are kurds to say that Kurdistian is their native country when they appeared in iraq turkey iran and syria only less then 200 years ago. If you guys are natives of that area then you are Assyrians, because true natives of Northern Iraq, Southeast Turkey, Northeast Syria and Western Iran are Assyrians. Their history traces back to more then 6700 years. They have been living their for more then 6700 years until today. Arabs came in around 2000 years ago. When did kurds come, where did they come from and last but not least do kurds have proof that they are natives of the land they claim

Submitted by: Dr. Edwin Cannon
Date: November 04, 2004

Subject: god bless kurdistan

You are doing a great job for kurdistan keep going and best wishes

Submitted by: char chra
Date: November 02, 2004

Subject: Brilliant Website

I think that this website is very informative and truly touching. The images have helped me really understand what kurds have been facing all these years. My best friend is kurdish so I have learnt alot about kurdish culture and history and have been very intrigued ever since I met him a couple of years ago at university. He also has been through unimaginable experiences having been in exile from iraq for many years. I very much admire the unity and closeness between the british kurds that I know and pray to allah for you to unite once and for all in kurdistan.

Also i just want to say to Ahmed that I am very proud of him and his achievements since he came to England and soon enough you will be able to return, not to Iraq but to Kurdistan Insh'allah.

a very proud friend

Submitted by: Shazia
Date: October 22, 2004

Beautifull site...congratulations.

How do Kurds and Armenians get along? Not comparing, just


Submitted by: christian
Date: October 21, 2004

Subject: new site

slawtan le be,,, ema xariki damazrandni siteki nwein bo kurdani narwij o mabast la danani am site awaya bbeta rozhnamayaki interneti o hoyak bo peikawa gayandni kordan la ghorbatda,,, peman xosha agar dabe nawi am sitash bxreta naw listi linkakantanawa,,,

adresi site,

nawi site ( kurdawane)

hiwai sarkawtntan bo daxwazm,


"hello, we want to establish an internet site for the

Kurds in Norway. This site is going to be like an

internet site. We would like you to give a link to

this site at your site".....

Submitted by: xabat
Date: October 19, 2004

Subject: photo

i knew your site from kurdistan. now, i am in canada. i am photographer, my file about kudish exile. i hope see you later. serkeftin!

Submitted by: ali riza
Date: October 06, 2004

Subject: Your book!!!

I think that what you are doing is great, i have a kurdish partner and i don't think there is enough support for the people with no country, the goverment needs to get more involved. I just want to thank you for your book and research into the kurdish history because we need to make others more aware of the situation.

THanks again

Nicola Friend

Submitted by: Nicola Friend
Date: October 05, 2004

Subject: more about ghrai family chef

hi i am grand son of ail which is son of ghrian chief of mamah and i would like it if u could send me some more pics to me email as soon as posible or contact me over my mums family, i saw u wanted to get in contact with my family my gran is still alive (wife of Ali) and she lives in england

Submitted by: Swara
Date: September 21, 2004

Subject: thoughts

i think the kurdistan history is most unique because of the horrid the kurdish people have had to go through in so many years but still remains the most interesting and powerful religion. I truly hope kurdistan becomes a country so that not only people around the world respect the religion but know more about the people and the struggles that make them so strong and powerful. Through all the trouble and war they have faced they still stand tall and happy,thanking god for making them whay they were yesterday,what they are today and what they will be tomorrow smile Kurdistan! for being a kurd.

Submitted by: zozan
Date: September 14, 2004

Subject: a patriotic Kurd


I also still don't get it why Turks are so against Kurds. What have we done to Turks that you are saying you can't get where is Kurdistan. Well i will tell you where is Kurdistan. Kurdistan is a country divided between 4 pieces, and annexed to countries like Turkey, Iran, Iraq, and Syria and these countries have killed thousands and thousands of Kurds because they think just occupying Kurdistan is not good enough that they also need to kill all the Kurds and get rid of them. There is no president for parts of Kurdistan except the one occupied by Iraq, and the presidents are Massoud Barzani and Jalal Talabani. But the parts occupied by Turkey, Iran, and Syria we don't have because these countries don't let us. If you really want to know about Kurds and Kurdistan, and all this crimes and genecides against Kurds by all these countries especially Turkey and Iraq, you can search for it on net and if you still can't ask me i will gladly give it to you. But here are some that you can look over,, there are hundreds of more if you really wants to know about Kurds and Kurdistan. Abdullah Ocalan is declared a terrorist because he was fighting for the independence of Kurdistan, because he was trying to free thousands of Kurds from killings that the Turkish government is doing. He is not a terrorist, he is only fighting for the freedom of Kurds.

If you want anything or wants to say anything, feel free to email me at

Submitted by: Minhaj Abdullah
Date: September 11, 2004

Subject: GREAT WEBSITE....


Submitted by: LANA
Date: September 10, 2004

I am about to move to Suleimaniyah in a month or so to work with the Kurds, and I greatly enjoyed and benefited from this website. Thank you for making such stories and photographs available to the public.

Submitted by: Tillson
Date: September 06, 2004

Subject: aka Kurdistan

Great Project! I hope the Archive will continue to grow.

Submitted by: Ana Tolyan
Date: August 27, 2004



translation courtesy of Aytul Gurtas:

Name : a brother

Subject : enough !

I will not address you in the language of gavur (that is a word used to describe the foreigners and actually means the non-Muslims AG). Kurds and Turks have lived together as brothers, along through history. If you do not believe it just check the history books.

The ones who destroy this brotherhood, such as America

and England, are the ones who think of only their interests and they are the bloodiest colonialists of the history. Those states have their eyes on the oil of Mesopotamia in the Middle East and also in

Anatolia. They are looking for ethnic entities in the area to be able to run their policy of interests. They have been considering the ethnic Muslim groups whom they had used earlier, as their puppets. Their (US & UK) aim is to protect the oil reserves and obtain new sources. For those reasons, they were looking for

a land in the Middle East with a central location to Caucasian, Iraqi, Iranian oil fields. And they turned their eyes to the Eastern Anatolia where Turks and Kurds have been living in the innocent brotherhood. The only thing they needed to do was to support the

PKK and provide technical and logistic help to it. By this way, they created the first differences between Kurds and Turks. Obviously that question is not that simple and easy. It is covered by very complicated events. The enemies of Turks would appear from under that cover. And they did so.

Submitted by: BI? KARDES¸
Date: August 12, 2004

Subject: reply to patriot turk

to a patriot turk dated 7 jul 2004

if your (turkish) blood is realy equal 100 foreign blood,you have a difficult way ahead,because first you should proof that you are not a foreigner and second that there is anything which could be called turkish blood.

probably you do not know that the so-called turks came from turkestan in north west china, so first go there and then consider other people as foreigner.

on the other hand that turks which attacked bizans,were few thousands and had no women with themselves.and whithin a generation or two they completly mixed into local population, which it make it more difficult to someone to claim that has turkish blood.

if you recieve modern weapons from your lords,do not get confused that you are brave,go and thank american and european for furnishing you with modern weapons and keeping you under their nato protection to use military weapons against civilians.and to save you from small group of kurds in turkey.

tukish braveness is known only in killing civilian inside the country,so think wisely and try to become civilized, here is not turkestan,when you want to live close to europe and crying to be accepted,try to adapt yourself with the behaviors in this region

Submitted by: AZAD (MR)
Date: July 31, 2004

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Subject: iraqi kurdistan

hello, mesod is my name and i come from iraqi kurdistan, and this site its good.

Submitted by: mesod
Date: July 29, 2004

Could someone out there educate me about the Kurd's religious beliefs and the religious background, history, etc. My e-mail is:

Submitted by: T.Eggertsen
E-mail: t.eggert
Date: July 27, 2004



Submitted by: LANA
Date: July 22, 2004

Subject: Asesino Sadam

Pobres curdos, saddam era un indeseable asesino. Ahora viviran mejor.

Submitted by: Jose Pons Bailly
Date: July 15, 2004

Subject: Thank you from PersianMirror

This is truly a beautiful website. My grandfather is kurdish, although I was born in Tehran. I just wanted to thank you for doing this. - We have also started a site which I would like to for people to see. We are looking for article in the topics of kurdish personal stories to publish to raise awareness. Please visit our site and send us your comments. we are located at

thank you and god bless.


Submitted by:
Date: July 13, 2004

Subject: info

this is very good book (Dr.Ver.M. Nuri Dersimi) you can find more informatian in this book

Submitted by: azad
Date: July 11, 2004

Subject: Going the wright way

Hi people,

I am a Turk living in hollland, i have read almost everyones opinion. i can honestly say with a few acceptions that most of the kurds really does wanna have peace.

And i think thats the kind of people we need to make a noticible differen.

I think the idea of Kurdistan is wrong and really unlikely.But i do believe that kurds do must have certain rights like talking their own language en prakticing their own culture. Beacause i live in Holland. And i am alloud to speak my own language here.

The most important part of this discussion is that anyone should respect the laws and the language of the countrie their living in. And to prever to East Turkey as North Kurdistan is the primairy reason why most Turks feel dreightend by the Kurds.

But i am happy to see that the laws in Turkey have Changed and the start of recognizing of the Kurdish minority in Turkey has started.I really hope that the Kurds in Turkey will take this as a possetive sign and stop their terrorist attacks on Turkish targets. because they only hurt The Kurdish people with it.

How ever i am not afraid to say that if the atttacks don not stop the Turkish Armed Forces WILL take the neccesarry steps to stope it for them.Even if that means a coup against the Kurdish loving Turkish goverment.There is a very old saying used among the soldiers:ONE TURKISH BLOOD EQUALS 100 FOREIGHN BLOOD.

Submitted by: an patriot Turk
Date: July 07, 2004

Subject: Kurdish land

By chance i got in your website. First of all, the map you are showing in the website is completely wrong. If it is showing the "wish" of Kurdish people, it is alright since everyone has the right to dream. The fact is, you can not build another country in a country. For instance Turkey's land and borders had been agreed years ago. How come now it is being showed as a Kurdish land? Why people cannot accept that they are living together and they always try to create their own areas?? There are miilions of Kurds living in wealth in Turkey. Don't believe that there's differentiation and cruelty to Kurdish people. The areas where had densely populated of Kurdish people might have been neglected; but this has nothing to do with the racial group, because there are millions of Turkish people living there as well. Why some of the Kurdish have chosen to start a war against their own country? Some Kurdish say that Turkey is not their country but a fabricated Kurdistan is their country.Why is it so hard to accept that they are Turkish Kurds??

Abdullah Ocalan is a terrorist -there should be no question about that. As a person who have seen many places in Europe, i can say that "terror" is not something that those people can imagine. I hope they never face "terrorism" but sometimes people who has no idea about terrorism, shouldn't decide so easily what is terrorism and who is terrorist. As a Turkish, i can assure everyone that PKK is a terror group and Abdullah Ocalan is the head terrorist. Most people think that these terror groups are being supported by foreign countries. We can say that they are the arms of terror, cruelty, murder and brutality. These supporters should think that terror is for everyone, sooner or later. As long as they support terror actions, they should keep in mind that one day they may suffer from the same thing. Tears, blood, bombs, murder...these are for the worlds end. So before someone happen to defend these terrorists, they should rather think about the babies killed there. Turkey is a land with so much beauty and brotherhood. However, for years, some people are playing games on us.

Submitted by: naz
Date: July 07, 2004

Subject: where is it ?

i still didn't get where is Kurdistan. the map is showing land of 3 different countries. who is the president of it ? How come i never heard of it but a friend of mine at school. And why Abdullah Ocalan is declared terrorist by almost all civilised countries?

Submitted by: Alex del bosque
Date: July 05, 2004

Subject: Enlightened and Moderate Islam


Subject: Enlightened and Moderate Islam

Being a Muslim you are not working for peace. You are misguided, mistaken and spreading hatred through disinformation and false accusations, which is resulting in death and miseries for number of innocent people living around the world at the hands of merciless KILLER MUSLIMS and also bringing bad name to MOHAMMED (PBUH).

Instead of teaching about Good & Evil, certain Radical Muslim Clerics are only "Trading in Religion". They teach you about accusing, abusing and killing the non-Muslims. They try to hypnotize you to Kill the non-Muslims and brethren of other sects or be Killed. Actually, they are "Agents of Satan" who is paying them heavily and in return they are cutting at the very roots of the Ummah. Most of the Muslims like you, are rejoicing on the brutal killings of the non-combatant innocent civilians and "The Murderers" have always been "Your Heroes".

Before it is too late and the Curse Of God falls upon you, please wakeup to save Muslims from becoming the most "Hated, Isolated and Suspicious" people in the world and start working for promoting "Sectarian Harmony and Religious Tolerance" in the society and prove to the WORLD through your deeds that MOHAMMED (PBUH) teaches "Sectarian Harmony and Religious Tolerance" and not Terrorism, Extremism, Sectarianism, Cruelty, Inhumanity and "Hatred & Killing" of the innocent civilians.

The killing of others in the name of religion is a Sin. Can a FATHER ever teach his Children to be the permanent Enemies of each other?

Let this be your FAITH: " Enlightened and Moderate Islam "


Peace Activist

Submitted by: S.A.Rehman
Date: July 05, 2004

a very very nice site.

Submitted by: hiwa
Date: June 29, 2004

Subject: interesting

i think the work is very good but alot of it is all the same. i also think that it was an interesting choice as it is very controversial issue

Submitted by: bob malone
Date: June 29, 2004

Subject: Getrude Bell

Gertrude Bell was NOT an archeologist She was a fairly typical upper-middle class Englishwoman of her time.. Via family connections she obtained visas, guides etc. to visit Mesopotamiaa (doing so on her own with only local servants, which shows the protection she enjoyed),

In fact, she was yet another unofficial source of intelligence for the British Foreign Office, as they prepared to carve up the Middle East, when the Ottoman empire finally fell, In this, G Bell is similar to TE Lawrence ( 7 Pillars of Wisdom) in being a spy rather than geologist or botanist......The Foreign Office found her reports only minorly useful, tinged with too much romanticism.

I remember this from a biography,

So-called well-meaning people like G Bell caused a lot of harm,

..... just viewed the exhibition in Paris. Hope you cqn transfer the Exhib to the UK, amd invite Tony Blair, who showed total lack of history understanding in invading Irak.

Submitted by: Pamela Laing
Date: June 28, 2004

Subject: Well done

Excellent site !

I went to university with a guy named Kawa. We both studied Software Engineering. I remember how he wanted to create a simple text editor that would enable him to write in Kurdish.

Submitted by: Alex
Date: June 21, 2004

Subject: Kurdish History


my name is Rizgar,i am 20,i am a student,i live Amed.i want to have some searh about Kurdish History and you know it is impossible to find real sources about Kurdistan and its i want you to send me all info.because i believe that it is very ashamed for me that i dont know my real history.and i am not pleased with my situation.

i hope that you will reply my request


Slawé germ ji Amedé

please write me your answer if you reply me. because it is my personal mail address

Submitted by: rizgar
Date: June 20, 2004

Subject: hi


Submitted by: ME
Date: June 18, 2004

Subject: kurds


Submitted by: AMER
Date: June 18, 2004

elazig,karss,van se trouve en turquie.

"Elazig, Kars and Van are located in Turkey." -eds.

Date: June 10, 2004

i am very intruiged by the stories that were published. sad and dissapointed i prayed that allah may bless and fulfill all the wishes of the people of KURDISTAN. whatever is happening today have been prophesized by those matyred decades ago by which the truth is prevailing.

Submitted by: shir khan
Date: June 03, 2004

Subject: beautiful mind, human

hekesi daha duyarli olmaya cagiriyorum.bu siteyi okuyunca turkiye gibi osmanli gecmisine sahip bir ulkenin neden bir daha dunyayi kucaklayamadigini anliyorum.cunku icte ve dista bunu engellemek icin kafa yoranlar var.tarihte hic olmaya bir seyi gerceklestirme gibi bir hayalin pesine dusuluyor.tabii kurd kardeslerimizi de anliyorum cunku degerleriyle onurlariyla oynaniyor ve haklarinda cok oyunlar ve planlar yapiliyor.

Akilli insan kendisine sunulan tekliflerin nerden ve kimden geldigine bakan insandir.bundan daha akilli bir insan daha varsa o da,nicin bana bu teklif edildi? diye kendisine sorandir.

Bildigim bir sey varsa tarih boyunca ve simdi de kurdler ve turkler ve daha nice milletleri birarada tutan enonemli bag;islamdir.bundan daha buyuk bir seref ve onur bilmiyoruz.

saygi ve hurmetle


I call on every one to be more sensitive. When I read this site, I can understand better why a country like Turkey, which has a past as Ottoman, could not embrace the world once again. Because there are ones inside and outside (of the country) who prevent that to happen. They are after a dream that has never been realized in history. Of course, I understand our Kurdish brothers, their values and honor are played around with and many consipiracy plans are made about them. The wise person is the one who looks at where the proposals that he is receiving come from. If there is a wiser person than that one, he is the one who asks, 'why am I offered that'. If there is a thing I know, there is a very important tie that has kept the nations including the Kurds and Turks together, in history, that is Islam.

We do not recognize a better and bigger honor and

pride than that one. [meaning the Islamic tie]

(translation courtesy of Aytul Gurtas)

Submitted by: mehmet ali
Date: May 09, 2004






Submitted by: PEACE & LOVE
Date: April 29, 2004

Subject: Thanks and Congratulations

I am so happy for this web site which i can say any one can understand about our culture or history .

Submitted by: Rebaz Qaldazay
Date: April 29, 2004

Subject: Your have done a brillaint job


I came to your website a very long time ago and was intrigued by your accomplishments. As a Canadian Kurd, I strongly believe and will maintain the thought that your website demonstrates optimism, intelligence, and a huge significance for Kurds. I have not yet seen a website like yours, and can easily conclude that your site is the best I have ever seen. It not only commemorates Kurds, but plays an active role in preserving the Kurdish identity. I hope that you will often develop and update this site, put new material and pictures on your site, and help Kurds seek their identity.

I hope that you will also utilize your knowledge and excellent working skills to come up with new websites or help in the preservation of the Kurdish identity to an even higher degree. I can not complimemnt you enough on the effort that I believe you have put into this site, and I hope that it stays online for years to come.

May Allah be with. Zur supas!

Honar Jangir, li Ottawa, Canada

Submitted by: Honar Jangir
Date: April 19, 2004

Subject: gentle heart of Kurds

Dear Ones,

I never thought I would find myself here wanting to know more, but my heart lead me here. When the heart is involved, the world is open for us. Then there is peace, and no wars or disease or evil, just the heart as universal.

Submitted by: Rebecca
Date: April 18, 2004

Subject: General

It's a great site. please keep me informed about additions and keep up the important work that you doing.

Submitted by: Julian Miller
Date: April 10, 2004

Subject: Some Kurdish MSN Groups

Hi , if you are not a member of the following kurdish group pls SIGN IN them :,,,,,,,,

thank you.

Submitted by: Rodin Rojhilat
Date: April 09, 2004

Subject: how i am

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this is how we are classified in syria kurdistan ................ .........please help us to improve our rights...........

Submitted by: omran m
E-mail: imran4terri@yahoo
Date: March 27, 2004


The Plight of Kurdish People in Syria

(South Western Kurdistan)

No doubt the visitors of this site have heard about the

widespread repression against kurds in Syria. Unfortunately

this barbaric acts are not reflected in the worlds media due

to different factors, the most clearest reason being the police censur and limitations imposed of the media by Syrian


In reference to the present situation in kurdish areas in Syria and the protests by kurds in the capital and elswhere in the country the riot caused by a footbal match in Qamishly comes up all the time. But the real cause of people's indignation in South Western Kurdistan has deeper roots, It stems from the denial of their basic cultural and political rights.

2 million kurds in South Western kurdistan are not recognised as a distinct entity, still 250000 kurds are not considerd as bona fide syrian citizens.Any genuine demands from the kurdish side is labeld as foriegn intervention. Now there is a golden opportunity for Syrian bathist regime to initiate a new approach to the kurdish cause.Even in Syria kurdish question has become a key to the democratic transformations. By labeling kurdish movement as foreign inspired trouble mongering, the regime in Syria acts contrary to its own interests. Both USA and Isreal have their own reasons to be unhappy with Syrian conducts in the region, and they may resort to both diplomatic pressure and even military intervention to reach their goals, but kurdish question seeks a justified cause which bullets and killings could not solve. The plight of Iraq baathist regime is very fresh in memory so, why should Mr.Beshar Assad choose this option?

The Following measures could pave the way for a long lasting

peace in Syria:

1- En end to police and racist attacks against kurds.

2- To realize all people who have been detained arbitrary.

3- To prosecute and put before justice all those who have caused shooting and killing innocent people in Qamishly, Amude ,Hesice, Hessake, Efrin, Allepo, Damascus

4- To compensate all material losses.

In order for a way to be found for resolving the kurdish issue

the following steps must be taken:

1- Building a joint committee with participation of regimes civilian authorities and kurdish representations in order to draw plans for ways of addresing Kurdish Issue.

2- International Bodies as well as representatives of Kurdish Federal govenment in neighbouring Iraq and Konga- Gel can act as mediators.

3- All discussions and developments should be transparent and kurdish masses be informed fully about these efforts.

I welcome any comments on the above-mentiond points.

Hejar Shawani

Submitted by: Hejar Shawani
Date: March 18, 2004

Subject: we th kurds


Submitted by: SAAD M EMIN
Date: March 08, 2004

Subject: the map

it's a pity the map can't be printed entirely, I tried many ways but get only a short stripe involving Kirkuk and Sulaimania in the north, and Baghdad in the south, you see it's uncomplete enough!!

can you change something about this? or is the map under copyright and people are not allowed to print it, even just to have it home?

I find this ancient map beautiful, if it belongs to a book I'll probably buy this one, but I'd like to know before!

thanks for all the informations, from past to nowadays about the kurdish culture it's interesting and moving as well

the old photographs and the current pictures (from Irak war) all together convey the sensation that eternity lays somewhere in the mountains of Kurdistan...

Submitted by: Nina Rojtman
Date: February 29, 2004

Subject: Join the List!

Beautiful site about our beautiful culture. It brings us from our rich historical past to the present, while journeying with tears.

Submitted by: Elvan Elcin
Date: February 10, 2004

Subject: as w/anything, real/ideal

i like the idea, though the waterfront property seems silly, and staking a claim to Mosul awfully unfair considering what some of the locals have put up with from so many hands. ideally there will be compromise, as will be demanded of everyone in the area. it has not been long since arbitrary division of the area, those who can know their identities as their own and not as a reaction to circumstances or purchase by industry or dictates from an intolerant god would likely do well as a nation. an independent kurdistan is a good idea.

Submitted by: dj charlemagne
Date: January 17, 2004

Subject: We should work for unity

I have been persecuted, too. We are all persecuted..why because we do not love each other and just love ourselves. We should love each other regardless to our nationalities, religions and races. They are all man made for the business and misuse. The human being is one as Sadi says..the human being is just like one body. We should not waste our time our short time for hate and disunity we should cooperate with each other to go further and not backwards.

I have been persecuted by my country, people, family...why because I love all people... I am university teacher in the USA, because they did not let me to teach in my country...

Submitted by: Amir Sahameddin Ghiassi
Date: January 16, 2004

Subject: I have been persecuted, too


The story of Djalal

By Amir Sahameddin Ghiassi

I would like to write the story of Djalal, just because I think it would help the young people to understand the difficulties of the life and the difficulties that they may have if they travel in other countries. I love the people in the whole world regardless of their religions, nationalities, races or other man made differences. I do not want to attack any cultures or any nations or religions.

I am trying just to point out the difficulties that the people may have because of these differences. My best friend Djalal and the other friend Sasan have the same or very similar life as me and they have the same difficulties, which I had. So I thought maybe by writing these facts, I can help to solve these problems. Why we should be persecuted, because our parents have other religions? Why we should have such a hard life, because of the religions or other difference that people made between themselves? Why the systems in the world should be so indifferent, that nobody will trust the other person? Why the humanity will die and the people more and less are trained to be without feeling? Why cooperation should not replace indifference and why the people should not have any feeling for each other? Why the system in the world trains the people to be indifferent? As I see the life of my friends and myself that are similar to my life, I think why we should not try to solve these problems? As a teacher I am interested in the life and futures of my

students, I think they are my spiritual children? I love my friends, too and that is the reason I am trying to bring their lives in the story. It may help a lot of other people in the same situation. To be indifferent or to

be not indifferent that is the question, which I will try to answer. I think if the people listen to each other without any judge in front or in the future, we will have a better life. With cooperation and love many of

existing problem can be solved. The two friends of mine explain their lives for me and they said I can use their life stories, as an experience for other people, may be the problems with other people, especially the young people will be solved. So I tried to make combinations of the three personalities in this story. We are three suffered for the same problems and I will try to solve this problem. What can we do, as we born in the families with two or three religions? What can we do, as we could not work in our native country and we must come to other country, and try to survive.

The problems of language, accent, religion, culture and having no friends whom are native and could help and show the ways, are the problems, which I am trying to point. The finance problems and the experience in other

country, which does not match with the experiences and problems in the new country. I do not blame these problems to the people. I would like that this problems be solved. So all people in the world can live than live in

peace and unity. Why we should suffer so much in our short life, which is full of natural problem, and we add a lot of artificial problem to that life, too. I was in Iran university teacher, expert in the telecommunication

company, teacher in German Embassy school, and consultant…I lost all of these positions, just because my mother was Bahai, I have been robbed by best friend in Iran and he involved me with the ministry of just and a lot of police stations. He misused the religion of my mother to bring me in a very hard situation. I must come here in the USA and starts everything from zero point again. So it is clear that I had a lot of problems again. I see

that my students use drug and do not use their energy for a good life. I will try to help them. I have no support here, because I am Iranian and they will say, you are a guest and should be quite and if here is difficult

you can go back. In a very weak situation I must take a lot of responsibilities and have been attacked from many sides. I will try that the people should understand each other and no to be indifferent to each other and do not misuse love and interest of other people for making money.

I would like to write the story of Djalal just as a try of an example for the unity of mankind. I do not believe in the hate between Nations, Religions, Races and other differences that the people may have or they

think that they have. When I see that the people do not like each other because of color or nationalities, I remember my doves that I had in Iran, they were different colors, white, black, brown and different sizes and

shapes, but they like each other and live with each other in peace. Why the human being that has more brain and have more knowledge should not live in peace with each other and why they should misuses Religions, Nationalities

or Races as an excuse for hate, separations and disunity. I think the people should be united with each other in the whole world and solve the problems in the world together and with each other help. Love each other

regardless to the religions, nationalities and other man made differences, so much money that we use for hate and wars we can use these monies for the people and make the whole world lucky and happy. I know that now the west

and the east are trained to hate each other and do not respect each other, and I hope that the third world war will not be between Moslems and Christians as it seems to be so. As a student and teacher coming from East

have a lot of experiences and know a lot of bad things, which is not correct and must be explain for the people in the world. Just because I was from another country or from East and live in the West I should not have so many

problems. It is not fair, that the people be persecuted by many governments and religions, because they want to be free of the hate and will love the whole human being. are the red roses better than white roses? In the garden there are different flowers, but none of them because colors could be better than the other roses with different colors. Is a white rose nicer than a yellow one? Or is a red one better than white one?

As Goethe said the West and East should give hand to each other and work together. I know that the system, which controls the whole world, will hate between East and West. This hate will be a big market for their weapons and

they can examine their weapons by innocent young people. Such an ignorant man like the third world leader let them use their experience and let them to examine their weapons in their countries with their people. They know

100% that they cannot win the war against the super power, but they do not care if many of their own people will die for a useless war and their country will be destroy by the super power. Why they are so ignorant and they do not think about their own people and country? What do you think, they know they will lose; they cannot fight with simple weapons against the modern ones. But they start the war, because they do not care about the people and their own country. About one million Moslems, Eastern people and one million Christians, Western people, if they start fighting, they make billions of billions dollars and other monies which exist in the world.

I had a Sunni student in the USA, Sunni is one of Islamic branches, he said Shia, the other branch of Islam is wrong and they do not have right and they are not real Moslems and must be executed; why because as a Sunni Moslem he was

brainwashed by his family and his culture and the people who are practicing this religion and culture. If you are born in a family of Moslem Sunni, you generally are a Sunni Moslem and you will be brainwashed as a kid in the school by your teachers who believe in that way and you will be brainwashed by your environment, by your parents and the teachers who are Sunni Moslem and they say that only the Sunni Moslems are right. What can you do, they say so and

you as a kid believe this. And I had Shia Moslems, they said the same thing that the Sunni is not a real Moslem and they are wrong and must be corrected or they should go away from the society.

I was born in a family with two religions; to a Moslem father and a Baha, i mother my father was a colonel

in the police force, a very well respected person and his father was an Ayatolah, something like Khomeini, but in other time. His father-in-law was very important, too. Actually my father had two wives in the same time, my

beloved stepmother was Moslem and I had 8 brothers and sisters from that side who are all Moslems, they were all nice and friendly to me and even their children were nice and friendly to me and I love them like my own sons

and daughters, even my half sister is very nice to me and I did not do anything for her, but my full sister whom I loved so much and I still love her very much, took all my capital and because her husband did not want to give my capital back, she ignored me, too. She was and is Bahai and I did whatever I could for her, but she did not appreciate all my effort and ignored me later as she sees I lose my money and power.

My mother tried to raise my sister and me as Bahai, my sister used to go to the Bahai center in

Tehran once a week for the religious lessons. I could not go, because at that time my father controls my mother and me. But in the time of my sister, he was very ill and could not control my sister and my mother as before.

My father died very early of a serious deasies and I do not know if that was cancer or other bad deasies. In that time I was in high school, and I became the head of the household at the age of 14. My friend Djalal had the similar life like me, but his half brothers and sisters were not nice and friendly to him as my half brothers and sisters were very nice and loving to me. He said that my older brothers and sisters from my step mother had influenced my father before his death to leave all of his estate to them and we were left with nothing except the small house we were living in.

There are a lot of people like us with the parents of two different religions and our lives are very similar.

Actually I am writing this story because I want to solve this problem, and I do not want that other children experience the same problem that we did. Why the children born in two different religions or nationalities or races

should have so many problems from both sides? I know a lot of people with the same problems and they experience the same persecution and difficulties, why? In the same year that my father died, the father of Djalal died, too.

In the same year the mother of my other friend, with 2 religions died also. Djalal said, I went to Christian private school as in the Moslem school now without father; the children would make the life hell for me. After

finishing the high school, I tried to study at the university of Tehran and I studied for two years the German Language. My mother wanted me to be a Medical Dr. so I wanted it, too and I loved, too to be a medical Dr. because

I could help other people and I would be very well respected. May be if I could be a medical Dr. I would have less problems.

If you are in a family with two different religions, when you are important and rich, the people from both sides forgive you because you are born in two different religions.

As the entry exam for medical subjects were very difficult in Iran, so I went to Germany for studying there. I went with a bus to Germany with many other students like me; some of them had the same problems, which I had. In

Germany to rent a room in university cities were very difficult, especially for foreign middle class students. When you have a lot of money you will be welcome everywhere. But if you are middle class and you do not have a lot of money, it is very hard to live in other country. The people do not accept you so easily. They think they should give you something and you will need them so they try to take a distance from you. I decided to come back, as in one year I could not get a room to live in. I was living in a pension and you cannot live in pension and study, because I must sleep with 8 other boys in the same room. So I came back to Iran and finished my BA in Tehran

University. I started to work as a private teacher, which also has helped me a lot. Now I have enough money to spend. I worked and studied in Tehran, and in 1977, after completing my military service and receiving my BA documents and other military documents I went to Germany again to continue my studying.

Again there was the same problem, this time I get a position as a teacher also, but sorrowfully some German do not like foreign and for this reason I returned to Iran, in 1978, and became employed as a university teacher and an adviser in the Ministry of Education. I also thought German in an international school in Tehran. I did not have any problems practicing my life in Iran when the Shah was in power, because although the Bahai religion was not an official one, its followers were free to be Baha’I and to practice and gather in the Bahai centers all over the country. My mother was Bahai as I said before and so the Moslems counted me as a Bahai and I was a Moslem for the Bahais with other words I was not accepted totally as a Bahai, for the Bahais and I was also not accepted as a Moslem for the Moslems, both religions did not accept me

completely, they tolerated me, but not accepted me. For example I could not marry a Bahai girl in my level, because my dead father was Moslem and I had half brothers and sister that were Moslem. I could not even marry a Moslem

girl in my level, because my mother was Bahai.

In 1979, the Islamic Revolution changed my life again. All the International schools were closed and I lost my jobs as an advisor in the Ministry of Education because my mother was Bahai, and they did not accept me as a Moslem. I was teaching languages in the Ministry of Communication, but 1981, I was fired from all my governmental jobs without any benefit of retirement. Having left with no source of income I began to work for the embassies of Germany, Austria and

Turkey, as translator.

In 1981, I got married and I have 3 children. I had

some savings, which I gradually sent to the United States to my beloved sister whom I had sent to the USA for study. I asked her to buy houses for me there as I saw no future for my children and myself in Iran any more, and I was waiting for an opportunity to leave the country. She wrote always lovely letter that I should come to the USA as soon as I can, or even try to come to the USA by illegal way, she wrote may be more than 50 letters and encourage me to come to the USA and here she will help me and my family to

come through. I did not want to come illegally to the USA and I wanted to do legally.

I did not want to do anything against the law in Iran. I applied for an exit visa several times but I was denied because my mother was Bahai. In 1983, one of my stepbrothers who hated my mother for marrying our father,

made false reports against me and I was imprisoned for 6 months. I had to sell my house and pay to the corrupt government as a fine before I could be released from the prison. I was very badly treated in jail and was beaten

and insulted constantly.

In 1987, I was arrested again and this time they accused me of spying for the foreigners. I spent 14 months in the Evin

prison without trail and was tortured repeatedly. They were asking all kind of questions about my affiliations with the Germans. I tried to explain to them that I was only doing my job as a translator and that I had no connection outside Iran. I was finally released when they were convinced for

my innocence but I had to sign a paper that I would give up my Bahai faith and act as the government informer when I return to my job in the embassy and in the Bahai gathering.

After I was released I was afraid to return to my job because I did not want to put myself in a dangerous position of working with foreigners in a country that they can easily label you as and spay and execute you. Since

my expertise was badly needed I could go back to my old job in the Ministry of Communication. In 1990, I enrolled in the Azad University of Tehran for a Master Degree program in German Language and Literature.

In 1992, as I was a university teacher and they wanted me to have a Master degree in the same field also. I was

advised by the Committee of the university that I can no longer study and teach at the university, because my mother was Bahai. Although Bahais can take the admission tests to go to the universities they are barred from entering to the higher education institutes because of their religion and in my case for the religion of my mother. Even the Bahais did not accept me as Bahai totally. I wanted to marry 60 Bahai girls and all of them did not want to marry me because my father was Moslem and I did not have good

knowledge in the Bahai religion as I could not go to the Bahai schools as I was a child. I had eight brothers and sisters who were strict Moslems. I had the same problem with the Moslem girls; I could not marry them, because

my mother was Bahai. I mean a girl in my level. I could may be marry a girl who must be at least two level down that means without any good education and good educated family. Or a girl who was married before and was divorced, I had maybe chance for them, but I wanted a wife for my whole life, I knew if I marry a girl with poor education and with parent with poor education they will influence even my children and I could not train my children to be free and with good education. Some uneducated family will

make fun of educated people and so they want to have their satisfaction.

I know another case that a man like me with a PhD married a girl without any collage education and her parents have only elementary education. They make life hell for my friend. Sasan said to me, that what ever I say, the

parents of my wife say this is wrong. They have only elementary education and I have PhD from the university, but they say that I am speaking poor Persian and have no knowledge in the Persian language and I have been

finished my degree from Iranian university. They say that the words that I used are wrong. For example they said you said Badenjan, the correct word is Bademjun and one time they said it is over 1 and half million Moslems in the world, and I said that is not true and there is about 700 million Moslem were in the world at that time 1986. And they were angry and said that I am ignorant and do not have any good education and make a lot of mistakes. I should listen to them, as they know much more. In reality their

knowledge was based on different storybooks and other rumors spoken by the people not classic books or dictionaries. Because they have other values than I

have, they worship money and materials and I love humanity and unity of mankind, so even later my children will be influenced by the parents of my wife, not to be very well educated, as they do not respect education so much. They respect money and if they respect education, because they think with good education, you can make more money. For example my sister had MA degree and she was a beautiful girl and well educated, she must marry a Bahai man who was 30 years older than her, had no degree, was married before

and was divorced and even his face was less than normal. One of my friend said your beautiful sister married a monkey type man, who cannot speak even properly Persian, his native language. He was 50 years in the USA and could

say only words in English and not a proper sentence with subject and object and the verb in a correct form. What he could do was to cheat American or foreign women and marry them and after a while they know how he is and they would have divorced him. He was playing and some times he won some money and with this money he could invite the girls or women in good restaurants and bought for them expensive gifts so they were fall in his trap for a while. So the same was for me, I could marry a girl in low class

situation, with uneducated parents and poor education and other negative situations. I wanted to marry a girl in my level and that was not possible.

And as I said 60 of them did not marry me. I was not upset about this. But my sister was very upset about this condition. In 1992,I was fired again from the Ministry of Communications after 8 years of services and the only reason they gave me was my mother religion also

Bahai. I appealed the decision to the High Court of Administrative Justice but my appeal was dismissed summarily. I was devastated. With several

degrees in education and languages and many years of productive work I was left behind without any job and could not even exit the country or work in the private companies. What the government official told me, I can work as a physical worker and the uneducated people

worked in my position.

My only hope was that I had about $200,000 in the USA for the rainy days but when I contacted my sister to send me some of that money to support my family, she told me that her husband had bought 3 houses with my money and I

later found out that he has bought the houses in his name and my sister name and basically refused to return any portion of my money. My wife, who had objected to transferring my saving to the US and especially to my sister, became very angry with me and wanted to divorce me.

I became so depressed that I attempted suicide but a neighbor saved my life and arranged for me to meet with an influential friend of his in the government to regain my job. I was advised that the only way I could get

back to my government job was to write an article against Bahaism and Christians in the newspapers and publicly request the government for forgiveness. I refused that offer, as I would prefer to starve rather than to act against my principals. I was actually a person who had the bad chance. The Bahais did not accept us totally as a Bahais, as we had Moslem father and 8 brothers and sisters who were famous Moslems, and the Moslem now did not accept me as Moslem, too, because I respected Bahais and

Christians. What can I do as I born in a family with two religions? How could I be against the religion of my mother or my father? You love generally your parents both and you cannot decide to chose one of them and hate the

other one religion.

In 1995, my aunt from my father’s side died and left me property. One of my half brothers took me to the court and because the justice system is corrupt they paid bribes to the judge and he ruled against me. Before I could appeal the case I was arrested again while I was at the house of a

friend of mine who was a Bahai. I spent 4 months in prison without being charged. I was very badly treated in prison and was called dirty and dog Bahai. Even I was not a Bahai. They did not execute me because of the

international outcry over the execution of Bahais in Iran.

When I was released I requested an exit permit. I was told that if I write article against the Bahai, I would get my exit permit. I was in such bad shape but still I could not write against any religions any thing in the newspapers, because that is exactly what the business people wanted. Hate between religions, so they can brain wash the people against each other religions and with this hate they can sell their weapons to them, and they can kill each other and I did not want to be one of their agent and part of

this cruel system. The system wants the disunity and hate, so they (the system) can govern the people easily. If the people fight with each other they have time to rub their wealth. I remember as a child we read a story,

that two men were fighting with each other and the third one took their properties and run away. I was now in this point. I must chose between hate and love. I will be very badly punished if I would have chosen Love. Love for the humanity and respect other people cultures, religions and other personal believing. So I chose the love. Sometimes I think why we should have for the short time of our life so many problems. Our life is so short and even this short

life is accompanied by a lot of natural problems. Than we add to these problems other artificial problems to these natural problems. We should make the life easier for each other and not more difficult. What can I do as I born in a family with two religions and I have an Iranian passport. In Iran I do not get job, because my mother was Bahai, the Bahais do not accept me because my father was Moslem. In the USA I do not get a good job, because I am Iranian. Why we should have this entire problem for the short

time of our life. The system of the world wants indifferent people. I came actually to all these problems, because I was not indifferent to the people, if I was indifferent, I may have none of these problems. The system wants indifferent people, so they can do what ever they want, and nobody will be against them, if you see somebody is killing some one on the street, you go your way, because you do not want to be disturb for other people life and

problems and that is exactly what the business people want. If I was indifferent and did not listen to other people problems and did not try to solve their problems or did not try to help them, I would have none of these existing problems that I have now. Any way they wanted my promise to relinquish my mother’s faith and cooperate with thegovernment in condemning the Bahai faith. I did not agree with this suggestion. Later I could go out of the country.

I came to the USA with the intention of getting my money back from my sister, but her husband did not want me and said “if you come to our house I will call the police. The police will take you to jail. You must pay an attorney to protect yourself in the USA and I have an attorney who protects me for my cheating activities.” I

wanted to send the interest of this money to my wife and children in Iran who need my support. When I came to Florida, where my sister and her husband live they denied that I ever sent any money to them. My sister told

me that her husband drinks and gambles all the time and that she could not do any thing for me because she fears him. So I went to the Washington DC area and now I am trying to have the minimum of life in the USA. I cannot

return to Iran as all my money is with my sister. I do not have any money to give to attorney to fight with my brother-in-law in the expensive court system here of the USA. The judges do not listen to me, because they are so

busy and their time is so costly and they want just to listen to an attorney, in Iran the judges listen to the people and they are not so artificial people and you can explain your situation to them. Some of them are indifferent and some of them at least listen to you. But here they are indifferent with what ever happen to me. In the time that my own beloved sister, whom I supported so much and gave so much money, has no interest about me how can other people have any interest about me? I have

no home here, no proper job and no family to go to. The Iranian regime has been deprived me of my right for practicing my faith which is respecting other religions. I was persecuted because I did not want to be against any

religions and did not want to write anything against other religions. I have suffered a lot in the hand of brutal and indifferent people, Moslems and Bahais, and can no longer tolerate the imprisonment and torture. I am a victim of the faith of my mother and my father and my only crime is my respect to other religions. When I was in Iran, I helped a lot of Americans friends at the time of revolution and now they are helping me to stay here. I want a

chance to serve the people with my knowledge and expertise I wanted always to serve the people. I love other religions and people and respect them. I want to be a useful person again and to be a good teacher again. Eastern and Western people should love each other.

Eastern and Western should respect each other cultures and the life styles.

All religions were from the East. All of them have told the same thing, the same route of Abraham. Jewish, Christian, Moslems and Bahai are saying the same thing and all of them believe the same God and respect the same 10

commands and are related to each other. Moslems say the Jesus was the spirit of God and a great prophet and Christian say he was the Son of God. What is

the different between Son of God and spirit of God both are only words and say the same meaning. All religions say that we should be fair with each other and love each other, but the people use or misuse religions for hate and disunity, what God sent for Love is used for hate and war. Is this fair? Many people suffer from the hate between religions, nationalities, race and other differences, which are man made differences. Jesus did not bring 6000

different churches with Himself with so many different names. All of them are man made churches according to the people interpretation or the selfishness of the people who wanted to have their own church and have the benefit. Some people want to be a pastor so they can have respect and

easy money. Jesus died with 33 as a poor man on the cross, some pastors have a good business and a lot of money by using his name and they do not even believe in God or Jesus. They act as they are deep believer, but they do not

believe in their heart and they say we made the people stupid of the promises that we give and made them like donkey and we use them. I had German pastor as a good friend and he said to me that is the easiest way to

earn money. I do not believe what ever I say. I cannot prove even to myself that there is a God. But I say this to the people and they believe, because the people have to have a God and I give this God to them, so they are

satisfied and I have my respect and money from them, just like a doctor who gives medicine to the people and they give him money. I sell my God and they give me money to live. The people need to fear and need to have hope for the

other world, they do not like to think that after the death they have done, they are done, and nothing stays. They want to have heaven and internal life; I am selling this to them. So I said you should at least train the people who listen to you for humanity and love for each other that is what all religions actually tried. Then he said if I do not say “that only this religion is the best one, so they do not come to my church and so I have less believer and less donations. “We should train the people to love each

other as the great people said and gave their life for this matter. I hope that my try will help some people to work for the unity of mankind. If we work together and do not spend money and energy for hate we can solve the most of the existing problems in the world, which are based on the

religions, nationalities and races, but in reality that is a business, that brings money to some people. That is just an economical problem, which uses or even misuses religions, nationalities and races for making money. That is a way of making easy money for some people. The money, which can be used for hate, can be used for peace and people. The cruel system should not bring the dictators to power for their own benefit and remove them when they do

not listen to them. When they (dictators) start to work for themselves and or for their own people, the system will change them, so again a lot of innocent people will be killed. I said to my pastor friend that we couldn’t

prove by science that there is a God or we cannot even imagine the God in our mind, but to be fair we cannot also disprove that there is no God, with other words our thinking system is so limited and our mind is so weak for

all these matters. As an ant or even elephant cannot think about our life, so we cannot think with our limited brain about God, so we could believe Him by heart and not by our limited brain capacities .My father told me, the

system bring dictators in power and as long as they listen to the big boss, they can be king or president for ever. But when they start to use their own brain and work for their own benefits and or for the people they will be

removed; by the force of advertisement, which can be prepared against them and if this does not work, they use real force and remove them. To bring them to the power they use a lot of innocent people whom some of them will

be killed and to remove them again a lot of people will be killed again. But the system does not care about the humanity and the unity of mankind what they want is more money.

My question is who gives drug to my students in the USA. Why the system does not prevent this? Why the teacher in the USA have no respect from the society as in the Middle East or in Europe? Why the police and people in the court have so much power, but a teacher who should train the students has no power even to ask the student

to bring his/her book with them. Why police and the people in the court have so much power and the teacher has not even had the same respect by the system and school system as the students have. The words of a student have

more validation as the words of a teacher. I asked one of my students to bring her book with herself, she went to the counselor and she called me in her office and said, she does not need to bring her book; she can look in

her friend’s book. Do not force her to bring her book and do not force her to learn. She is free not to learn in the class. So what can you do as a teacher? Other mother came to me and said my son is coming to school to have

fun with the girls, and you are forcing him to learn and you always asking him questions. What a huge crime I did to that student, I asked him questions about the class materials. And the student and his mother did not like that. If they cheat in my class, I must forgive them, but the police and judge will forgive them, also?

I do not know if my story will help the unity of mankind and the humanity or not. But like many other writers who tried to share their experience with the people, I will try to do that, too. I remember in the time that I was reading the father Gurio from Balzac the French writer; I did not expected that the similar situation in his story can happen to my friends and me.

Baba Guiro was a rich man and he had two daughters, they were beautiful and they were ready to be married, so Baba Guiro gave all his wealth to his two daughters in the hope that later the daughters will help and support him,

when he get older; and the money also will help them to marry good husbands, too. He thought I do not need money, let give the money to the younger daughters so they can use it and will get nice husbands. After he gave everything, what he had to his daughters; he went to his older daughter to stay with them, also she was married and the father wanted to stay with her and her family. After a while the daughter said my husband does not like guest, so please go to your younger daughter. Baba went to the younger

daughter and stayed with her for a while, but again after some time the daughter said go back to my sister I am tried of having you here and my husband does not like guest, too. So they put the old man on the streets of

Paris. When Sadegh Hedayat a Persian writer wrote“ there are some wounds in the body that eats the flash like a deasies so we think that the writer was so pessimistic.

Now I am speaking about the story that I will write. The problem of Religions, Nationalities and races…I was born in a family with two religions. I am not the only one with a Moslem father and a Bahai mother; many friends of mine have the same problem. As I said before the father of my friend was Moslem and a military colonel, the son of an ayatollah and his mother was a Baha’I high school teacher. It is clear that you love your parents, both of them so you respect their religions, too. But it is not so

easy when the two religions do not accept each other or at

least they do not tolerate each other. The Moslems say that the Baha’I is a wrong and false religion, their followers are bad people and must be sent

out of the country or be executed if they are active in the Bahai faith and the Baha’is say that the Moslem should investigate and found the truth; they should read Baha’I books and found the reality and the true. The Islam is a

right and good religion, but it is old and must be renewed by the new prophet and its rules and regulation are for the past and these law and regulations are not possible to be acted now. On the base of Islam the Bahai religion has been established. And the Moslems say “Mohammad is the

last prophet and we do not need to investigate other religions or read other books, the Islam is a good and the last religion and other religions after Islam is false religions. Even some Moslems do not read their own religious book, the Koran. I remembered one of my student said the Koran is a very good book and in that book everything is written from Physic to Medicine, I

said did you read such a glorious book, he said no, I said why? He said he does not know good Arabic, I said there is a translation in Persian, too. He said the translations are not good enough to understand the Koran. I said

that is just an excuse, if you say such a book is so good, and you do not even try to read it; that is not fair. If you are a good Moslem you should try to learn Arabic and read the Koran in Arabic with the help of Persian

translation. He said I have no time to do that. I must work and study to have a diploma to get a better salary. With reading Koran I do not get a diploma to get a better salary. So I have no time to investigate Koran and

read it properly. So you can imagine how hard it is for the children born in a family with two religions. For me it was very hard.

As I wrote before, I am trying to write the story of my friends, whom their lives were similar to my life. Djalal and Sasan were the two closer friends to me and both of them have almost the same problem that I had. On the street the Moslem children through stones to me and said bad words about Baha’I people and even very bad words about their leaders and prophet, and called me sag Babi, which mean Bahai dog; and often I came home with bloody face or head

and they said bad words about Baha’I people and Baha’I prophet continuously. I did not know at that time the different between the two religions. I was only 8 years old. In the house especially when we have Baha’I guests , my father forced me to pray in Arabic in front of the Baha’I guests. He wanted to influence the Baha’I guests that Islam is a better religion by forcing me to pray in Arabic language loud in front of them, that I did not know the meaning of my pray at that time. For this reason it

was hard for me, too. I must do something that I do not even understand.

Now after many years I remember all these and thought; may be if I write this it will help the other children who

are like me (us) in the past, in a family with two different religions. And maybe the father and other members of the family have mercy for the kids. And they will not force them to do something that is difficult for them and

they do not understand also.

I was teacher in Iran in different universities and international high schools. I started my teaching position in Tehran German School. It was a nice school with a very friendly German principal. His name was Herr Werner

Dau and was like a real father to the students and the young teachers. I was hired by the school board and I have been paid about one third of a salary of a German teacher from Germany. Our salary was a little bit more than the salary of Iranian teachers in Iranian schools. So the salary was attractive for other Iranian teachers who were in Iranian schools. So many of them were trying to come into the German school, especially when they were hired by the Iranian government, they could keep their salaries from

the Persian government and have another extra salary from the school. But you must have good friends or good parties to come with the government salary to a private school like German school. My mother was working in a

private school, but she was only paid by the government and the private school paid only the teacher whom they hired directly, so they did not pay the government teacher. But in German school it was different. They paid the teachers whom they hired and they paid the government teachers even more than what they paid to the teachers whom they hired, also they paid more money to the government teacher. So you can imagine how attractive was the job as a government teacher to work in the German school. So after one

ear that I was teacher there; the first government teacher came as a teacher and Persian director to the school. Now he was trying to influence the Germans that the government teachers are better than the private teachers whom they hired. This government teacher had even more salary from

the school as I got. But he wanted now to bring all other his family members and friends to the German school. So he tried to send me and some other local teachers who were hired by the school system directly out of the

school. As long as Herr Dau was director he could not influence him. But after two years Herr Dau was retired and should go back to Germany. Now it was his

time to influence the new young principal of the school that the private teachers whom are hired by the German school are not so good as the government teachers and they should be fired and the government teachers should replace them. They can teach much better. Actually in Iran

everybody who finish the university can be a teacher. So after a while they will be trained in the system. But in Germany it is different. The teachers have other education as just finishing the university with a degree. That point was his argument; in Germany you should have other exam

to be teacher and not only the university diploma. University degree is not enough to be a teacher in Germany. Any way after three year that I was

teacher there, he made so many problems for me that the school agreed to send me out; for example, he gave me 3 first grade classes, so it was so boring to repeat the same materials 3 times every day. So he could then

bring his brother-in- law and other members of his family or his closed friends as teacher in the German school and so he manipulated the school system with his people. I went to British school and was a teacher there for a while than I went to Germany and was a teacher there.

I have tried to say this fact to the Iranian government people that why I should be fired; just because I was not a government teacher, but nobody was interested to listen to me. My argument was why a teacher from government

should have two times salary and the other teacher whom is not hired by government should lose his only job and the only salary; and give this job to other teacher who has already a job as a government teacher in the government school. But the system ignored me. In the time that I was

teacher in the German school I was 22 years old and that was my second year to be a teacher. Before I was teacher in an Iranian private school.

I loved my students like my own children and tried very hard to be a good teacher and the spiritual father, because I thought the parents have trusted me and gave me their children so I must do my best to teach them as much as

possible. Later I was teacher in Indian school, Korean school…and universities and later I was teacher in German Embassy School, as the Iranian government closed the Tehran German School.With the revolution in Iran the Mark had two or three prices. As the inflation in Iran was very high, so the price of Mark in the free market was

going up and up. So with the inflation the prices of everything were going up. But our salary was the same. The Iranian Islamic Republic closed the Tehran German School and so the government teachers tried very hard to keep

their positions and keep the school running, but the Iranian government did not want that the Iranian children or German-Iranian children with an Iranian father go to that school any more. Only the German children or the

children with Iranian mother and German father could continue that school. The new school was much smaller and the government teachers have gone to government schools. I came back from Germany and was teacher again in this school. A part time teacher in the new German Embassy School.

Now the war between Iran and Iraq started and the inflation goes up and up. And because the Mark had three different rates, so the German teachers and the other Germans and foreign changed their money in the black market and

changed it again in the bank with the government rate. I remember that one German killed an Iranian colonel in an accident. They paid the blood money with the money that they got from free market; also for each Mark 200 rials

and than they got back from their insurance company for each 40 rials that they spent for the blood money one Mark back; with other words they got 5 times more money from the insurance company in Germany than they spend that

means five times more German Marks. So that was another good thing for foreign. They spend their money in Iran, which had been changed in free market and get back the difference by the government rate. So I wrote to

the insurance company that they should ask for a receipt from an Iranian bank to know how much they get for a German Mark. If they do not have a receipt that means they changed their money in the free market or black

market. It will be then clear where they changed their money, official or free in the black market. So the Germans get angry with me and again after 8 years I was sent out. But the problem was not only the money that the

Germans get now 200 times more salary as the Iranians. They looked down on Iranians who get so little money for the same work they looked down to the Iranian teacher and other Iranians who worked there as a second-class

people. One of the principal said to me that you are Iranian and must be paid badly, because you are not deserved to have a better life. You will be heart that in your own country the foreigners do not respect you and

say clearly that you get less money; much less than 200 times less than the foreigner, just because you are Iranian. The other Iranian passport holder

teachers in the school who were also German and married to Iranians have been paid like Iranians so they were not happy with this situation, too. So we have a gathering and because I was the head of the local teachers, they said I should write a letter to the German government and explain the matter for them that the inflation is very high here and the Mark has three rates and we are paid badly. I sent also a Persian newspaper in English that showed very clearly that a Mark had three different rates in Iran. After I sent the letter the local teacher let me alone and I lost my position as a head of the teacher. The principal of the school said that I should write another letter and say that I was wrong. I said I was not wrong and what I

wrote is pure facts. So they said if I do not write the letter I will be sent out of the school. I have been sent out of the school, so I went back to the university and worked as a university teacher there. Again the

students were nice and friendly and I thought them as much and as good as I could. I had a very nice and good friend. And I gave him some money as a loan to repair his house and give it back to me in 20 days. Now he does not

want to give the money back and wrote to the government that my mother is Baha’I and I am Baha’I and I am teaching at the university the innocent Islamic Students; in

an unclear way, that I wanted to influence them and wanted to change their religions. So this time I lost again my job. He even made the life so hard for me as he had a lot of friends in the government and they make the life

hell for me. I went to one of my best friend who was like me. His mother was Baha’I and his father was Moslem. He said he had a lovely sister in the USA and she is working there and has a family and she wrote always to me” come Djalal to the USA here is the land of opportunities and you are university teacher and can get here a good job easily”. Djalal was like me and was sent out of job because his mother was Baha’I. Now he says Amir

come we can go together to the USA and can work there easily. I will send all my capital to my beloved sister and she said that she will buy houses for me there. Forogh was his only sister from the Baha’I mother; she was a

very lovely and friendly girl, as I knew them. Some time in the past we went together to the cinema. She was about 8 years old. Djalal loved his sister more than a sister. He would do everything for her. He trusted his

sister so much that he said to me. Amir if you have some capital “come and I will send it to my sister for you to buy a house for you there, too”. In that time we could not go out of Iran, because of the war between Iran and

Iraq has been started and we could not go outside Iran any more and it was not possible to travel outside of Iran, the ways were closed. But we thought soon the ways will be opened again and we can go to the USA, the land of

opportunities. Djalal started to sell his properties and send them to the beloved sister. And the sister said always “come, o come to the USA even illegal you can find a good job here”. That was Djalal hope to go to the

USA. one day in the future. He waited until the way was opened, but again because of religion problem he could not go out of Iran, so he waited again few years until he could go like me out of country, so in that time in the

near future he may be able to fly to the beloved sister.

After the war was finished; still Djalal could not go, because his mother was Baha’i. So he waited again until he can find another legal way to fly to the sister. All the letters that came from the sister were lovely letters

and encouraged Djalal to come to the USA. It was 1993 that Djalal could fly for the first time out of Iran. I saw him in Istanbul and he was so happy as he had the visa for the USA and could go there soon, he thought at that

time all his problems have been solved. We both got visas and went together to the USA only in different cities. One day I got a letter from Djalal that his sister did not want him any more. As he sent all his capital to her now the husband wants to keep the money and is not willing to share his capital with him, her husband was a Baha’i. Djalal asked me what could I do. If I go back to Iran my wife and her family will be angry with me because they were not agree to send so much money to my sister even my

mother was not happy as she sees that I sent everything to my sister, but I loved and trusted my sister so deeply that even I did not dream she will be changed so deeply and be so indifferent to me. But because the mother was a lovely

lady she did not say anything. Now Djalal wrote that they even did not take me to the home, which bought actually with my money. I was here few days on

the street until a friend helps me to work and found a place for me to live.

Now I am a collage teacher in Florida. In the European school or Iranian school the students are very well trained to learn. And if the students knew or feel that the teacher like them and want to help them and feel the teacher is interested in their life and learning, they will even learn more to make the teacher happy. If you push the students to learn and even force them to do their homework the students and their parent are thank fulland appreciate this. In America in the American schools I experienced the

opposite of this, as I tried to push the students to learn the school system did not support me. A student has cheated in my class 15 times. I sent him to the office and called his parent to come and see me. I thought with their

support ;I can correct the student as he was a smart boy, but he did not want to listen to me. I called his mother to come and see me. I thought what I want to make him like other students who were working with me. I had two

Latin classes in the same room. Latin II and Latin III. The Latin III students were nice and friendly and all of them were working good and all of them were good and students. They were nice, friendly, polite and hard working students. I had no problem with them. In Latin II, my students were

good, too. All of them were nice and friendly, except one who does not want to learn and wanted to have fun in the class. He was a smart boy, but he does not like me, because I wanted him to learn in the class. There was another girl in my class, who was very similar to my cousin. She was a

beautiful girl and smart, too. She does want to learn as little as possible and wanted to have A also. She always tried to have A without learning and working enough. Actually I liked all my students like my own children and

wanted to transfer my experience and knowledge to them as far as I could, but as I was foreign and did not have any support from the school system; so it was hard for me to survive. In European school the school system support

the teacher generally. I was teacher in German school for many years. Always I was supported by the school system generally against the students even the parents have supported me. In Iranian school system also the parents and

school system support the teacher even if he did not like the student very much and is not interested in their future life. But here was it different. The girl wanted to learn as less as possible but she wanted to have her a

grade. But this boy wanted a grade by cheating. Her mother did not come the first time and I waited for her and she did not appear. For the second time I had a telephone call from the assistant principal that I should go to his office. I went to his office the mother was sitting

there with his son. She started that his son is a good son in the house and his room is clean and he is a smart boy. I agree with her that he was smart and is good boy. The only problem that I have with him was that he wanted to cheat in the class and have his A easily without working for it. All other students were working in my class and listening, he was the only one who did not want to cooperate with me and listen to me. Even the beautiful girl was most of the time listening. Than the mother said he does not respect you. I

asked why? There was no answer from her side. She started to say that he comes to school for having fun with the girls and socialize with other children and you are forcing him to learn in the class and asking always questions from him. This time assistant principal shouted and yelled at me

with a very loud voice, why I always ask him a lot of questions. Let him sit in the class and relax. Let him do what ever he wants. I do not know why the assistant principal supported this time this student so much. I had two other cases in Latin I, two smart girls wanted

to have good score without working for it too. I cut them by cheating in the class. They had the answers in another paper and I sent them to the office. The school system called the parents and me in the office and the school

system and the same assistant principal have supported me and said to the parent if they cheat again they be will sent out of the school. From over hundred students that I had in seven different classes only 5 of them wanted not to learn and wanted to have fun in the class also. I corrected most of my students to be good students. Tiffany and Elizabeth both of them were good and smart, but they

prefer to have good score without learning for it. But after the school supported me they both have been changed to good nice students and they learn very good and I have no problems with them any more. Actually I love my students like my own children and I wanted that they get good score and do not waste their time in the class. But I do not know why with this special boy; the school system did not support me. They believe more the words of the parent who supported their boy and the boy words than my words and me. After yelling and shouting of the assistant principal, even the mother said later to me “poor man” she sees the matter as a fight not as cooperation. She does not see me as a teacher who wants to help her son, but

she wanted me to force to give a good score to his son without his trying to get a good score. As the school system supported mewith the two other girls. I thought this time they will do the same. But this time I was wrong. The mother even asked the assistant principal if they

can monitor with a camera me in the class, because she afraid that I force his son to learn. That was the first time I listen such sentence. My son is coming to school to have fun with the girls and you are forcing him to

learn. You cannot damage his future and you must give him good score. Now the boy was out of control and wanted to be a hero in the class and so the girls will admire him by cheating and not respecting the teacher. I was here in the USA, because in my own country I could not work; so I did what ever they asked me. Even in the time that the assistant principal shouted and yelled at me in a very bad voice and rude manner form;I kept quite and did not react against that, because I wanted to keep my position. Sorrowfully that brings me to a very poor situation that the students especially the boy knew now that I am in a very weak situation and he can do with me what ever he wants and the school system and parent will

support him and not me. Now he wanted to make himself as a winner and me as a loser. He said clearly that he does not want to learn in my class and he wanted good score from me, too. And if I do not give him what he wants my boss the assistant principal will get it for him from me. I did not know that what ever he was saying could come to be truth. As he has disturbed my class and was not listening to me and tried to influence other students to do the same ;I asked the teacher union which collect money from my salary

every month to support me. So they ask the principal to move the boy to other class. Now he was in other class and I must give the other teacher materials for him to work in her class. She did not teach the same subject.

She said that he is working well in her class. Now we came to the end of the school year and I must give the final score. In the final exam he wrote a F and now he

was with his parent and school principal and the other teacher in the office and they wanted that I change the F to A or B. Now the student said that the materials in the exam was out of the book and I must bring the book and

show them exactly that the questions are not out of the book; whatever the student said I must show them in the book and prove it. The Latin book II had 24 lessons and I just questioned him 20 words from the first 3 chapters.

And he gets an F. Now I said to the parent that I will give him time to learn these 3 chapters again and I will make another exam and if he knows these three chapters, he will get a better score. They changed one time my D to B for him and this time they wanted for his F a better score, too. But all of them wanted a good score without any trying and working from the student side. They insisted that I should give him now a good score. The principal said that the parent could sue him. I do not know why. They

force me to give a good score. Now I knew whatever the student said is right; that school system in this particular case will get a good score for him. I said I am more sorry for the boy than for myself, you are training

him to cheat and be rewarded; do you thing that later the police and judge will forgive him for his cheating activity. You are abusing the boy. The father said you are not right my boy never cheat. With other words the student cheats and the teacher is punished. I asked in other case a girl to bring her book with and she had never had the book with herself. She went with her mother to the counselor and the counselor told me in her office that she can look in her friend’s book and need not to bring her book with herself. With other words I could not even ask the student to bring her/his book with in the school. So these 5 students in whole 7 classes that I had could be not corrected and the system was so indifferent; they even did not try to correct them. The other students damage the computer and torn the books in the class, I sent him to the office again; now I must prove that he did that activities and he was saying he did not do these and the school assistant principal believed him and not me; the computer has been damaged by itself and the book was torn by itself, too. Later the same student put the projector in my eye and pointed laser in my eye, too, so the teacher is a victim and the police and judge have so much power and the

teacher is a helpless person, why the student who has so much freedom in the school, later the judge should have so much power over him, he is trained not to respect adult or the teacher, why later he is forced to respect the

police and judge, why the teacher should not be respected and the police and judge should be respected by her/him. Is not this a dual moral? I remembered the other side of the case, which I was student and the teachers, were so cruel and hit the students and punished them when they have no

homework. I was sick one day and next day I went to school. The teacher sent me out of the class to the principal and he without any question he hit me. I was so angry that I wrote bad words about the teacher on the wall and now they hit and punished me so badly that I had a lot of wound in

my body. From one extreme to another extreme. If the students will be very well trained in the school, later they will have no problems with the police and judges. Now the other side, the students do not respect the teachers and are cruel to them.

Submitted by: Amir Sahameddin Ghiassi
Date: January 16, 2004

Subject: Let work for the unity not for

We should be united and be a great country. The United States of Middle East... alone we are nothing, together we are something...We were in the past one, we should be one again. The USA has a lot of nations, why should we be seperated? How can we be a big country if we are seperated. Kurd, Turk, Pars, Mad, Tajik,Afghan are one. we are not different. The evil make us to look in each other different. We are one, if we were one we are strong...if seperated we are weak.

Submitted by: Amir Sahameddin Ghiassi
Date: January 16, 2004

Subject: A web site about the instument


A web site about the musical instrument oud, or ud, where Nikos Dimitriadis, from Greece is describing and plays various improvisations. (Taqasims)

Best regards

Nikos Dimitriadis

Submitted by: Nikos Dimitriadis
Date: January 16, 2004

Does Bush like kurds? can any kurd answer this question? I do not think so. if a people can be happy with the help of the occupying power, I think Israel would be the happiest place in thoe world. but , it is not. wake up before it is too late.

Submitted by: smere
Date: January 16, 2004

Subject: the writer of the stop bull...


i am a kurd born in the us. i was the one who wrote stop bullshitting please! hesso, you thought i was an american but i am a kurd that will never forget her ethnic backround.oh and i am only 12 years old.

Submitted by: lana
E-mail: dont have one
Date: January 11, 2004

Subject: The web site

This is the first time l have visit this site, as far as l understand it is a good site, a person kurd or from another race can learn many things about Kurdistan, l personally am from Kurdistan, but l go to üniversty in western Turkey, when l bored l usually look for something different, i think it is nice that kurds have a site like this, we hope to know much about our country (Kurdistan) l will give that site to all my friends, by this way they will learn more about their country. we must thank people who work this site, l have an idea, if you write in kurdish too, it will be better, again and again l thank to all people that make this site, l wish success to you.

Submitted by: SERHAT
Date: January 06, 2004

hi! kurds have been talking about assimilation and massacre. i respect their culture but look at iraq. kurds are now the playground of US,Israel and Britain. so, in the future when US leaves how will they face their naighbors? kurds... wake up... west is manipulating you, and they will throw you to the waste basket when their work is done...

Submitted by: ali
Date: January 03, 2004

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